BOSNIAK WOMEN & CHILDREN BURNED ALIVE BY SERBS AROUND SREBRENICA
In order to prolong the suffering of innocent victims, Serbs around Srebrenica would barricade Bosniak women, children, and elderly men in abandoned houses and then set them on fire alive.Those who tried to escape would be fired upon and killed. The youngest victim was 2 days old baby whose remains contained multiple bullet holes. Some babies died in their mothers' wombs as you can see in forensic photos provided below. According to numerous testimonies presented at the ICTY, main organizers of these crimes were Mitar Vasiljevic, Milan Lukic, and Sredoje Lukic.
PHOTO: Remains of a pregnant Bosniak woman and her unborn baby excavated from a mass grave Suha in the Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. Fetus body was preserved in mother's womb with tiny legs and undeveloped brain clearly visible. The woman was barricaded in an abandoned house and then set on fire by Bosnian Serbs. When she tried to escape, she was shot with a single bullet to her stomach. In 1992, Serbs barricaded approximately 150 Bosnian Muslim women, children, and elderly men in two abandoned houses located in the Srebrenica region near Visegrad and then burned them alive. Zehra Turjacanin was the only survivor from the burning house in Bikavac and recently she testified 'what it feels like to burn alive' at the trial of Milan and Sredoje Lukic.
PHOTO: Pathologists at the University Clinical Center Tuzla examine remains of a pregnant Bosniak woman and her unborn baby found in mother's womb. The woman was barricaded in an abandoned house and then set on fire by Bosnian Serbs. When she tried to escape, she was shot with a single bullet to her stomach. The victims were excavated from the mass grave Suha in the Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosnian Muslim population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Remains of a pregnant Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) woman and her unborn baby excavated from the mass grave Suha in Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. Baby's undeveloped head, fingers, and legs are clearly visible. The woman was barricaded in an abandoned house and then set on fire by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica. When she tried to escape, she was shot with a single bullet to her stomach. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosnian Muslim population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Pathologists at the University Clinical Center Tuzla show remains of a pregnant Bosniak woman and her unborn baby. She was barricaded in an abandoned house and then set on fire by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica. When she tried to escape, she was shot with a single bullet to her stomach. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosnian Muslim population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide, when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Remains of a Bosniak woman and her unborn baby excavated from the mass grave Suha in the Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. Baby's undeveloped body was preserved in mother's womb. She was barricaded in an abandoned house and then set on fire by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica. When she tried to escape, she was shot with a single bullet to her stomach. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosnian Muslim population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Pathologist at the University Clinical Center Tuzla inspects remains of unborn Bosniak baby that was found in a womb of a murdered mother. The woman was barricaded in an abandoned house and then set on fire by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica. When she tried to escape, she was shot with a single bullet to her stomach. The victims' remains were excavated from the mass grave Suha in Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosnian Muslim population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Remains of a baby bottle and baby clothing containing multiple bullet holes were excavated from the mass grave Suha in the Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. The Bosniak victims were barricaded in an abandoned house, set on fire, and burned alive in 1992 by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosniak population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide, when Serbs overtook Srebrenica summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Remains of a baby bottle and baby clothing containing multiple bullet holes were excavated from the mass grave Suha in the Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. The Bosniak victims were barricaded in an abandoned house, set on fire, and burned alive in 1992 by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosniak population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Remains of a baby bottle and baby clothing with a bullet hole were excavated from the mass grave Suha in the Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. The Bosniak victims were barricaded in an abandoned house, set on fire, and burned alive in 1992 by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosnian Muslim population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Remains of Bosniak children killed by Serbs around Srebrenica. The victims were barricaded in an abandoned house, set on fire, and burned alive by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica in 1992. The victims' remains were excavated from the mass grave Suha in the Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosniak population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide, when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Remains of a Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) child and a baby killed by Serbs around Srebrenica. The victims were barricaded in an abandoned house, set on fire, and burned alive by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica in 1992. The victims' remains were excavated from the mass grave Suha in the Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosniak population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Remains of Bosniak children killed by Serbs around Srebrenica. The victims were barricaded in an abandoned house, set on fire, and burned alive by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica in 1992. The victims' remains were excavated from the mass grave Suha in the Srebrenica region, near Bratunac. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosniak population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Dignitaries and forensic workers attend process of exhumation of victims from the mass grave Suha around Srebrenica, near Bratunac. Bosnian Muslim victims - women, children, and elderly men - were barricaded in abandoned houses and then set them on fire alive. Those who tried to escape were shot and killed. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosnian Muslim population of Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Dignitaries and forensic workers attend process of exhumation of victims from the mass grave Suha around Srebrenica, near Bratunac. Bosnian Muslim victims - women, children, and elderly men - were barricaded in abandoned houses and then set them on fire alive. Those who tried to escape were shot and killed. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosniak population of Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
PHOTO: Dignitaries and forensic workers attend process of exhumation of victims from the mass grave Suha around Srebrenica, near Bratunac. Bosnian Muslim victims - women, children, and elderly men - were barricaded in abandoned houses and then set them on fire alive. Those who tried to escape were shot and killed. The events preceding and leading to the Srebrenica genocide included unprecedented levels of cruelty committed by Bosnian Serbs around Srebrenica against the civilian Bosniak population of the Podrinje. In July 1995, crimes against humanity had culminated in a crime of genocide when Serbs overtook Srebrenica, summarily executed between 8,372 and 10,000 Bosniaks (men, children, and elderly), and forcibly expelled more than 20,000 people in a U.N.-assisted case of ethnic cleansing.
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According to the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia, some of the victims that were burned alive included:
- Kurspahic, Aisa - Approximately 49 years old.
- Kurspahic, Aida - Approximately 12 years old.
- Kurspahic, Ajka - Approximately 62 years old.
- Kurspahic, Alija - Approximately 55 years old.
- Kurspahic, Almir - Approximately 10 years old.
- Kurspahic, Aner - Approximately 6 years old.
- Kurspahic, Becar - Approximately 52 years old.
- Kurspahic, Bisera - Approximately 50 years old.
- Kurspahic, Bula - Approximately 58 years old.
- Kurspahic, Dzheva - Approximately 22 years old.
- Kurspahic, Enesa - Approximately 2 years old.
- Kurspahic, first name unknown - Approximately 2 days old.
- Kurspahic, Hasa - Approximately 18 years old
- Kurspahic, Hajrija - Approximately 60 years old.
- Kurspahic, Halida - Approximately 10 years old.
- Kurspahic, Hana - Approximately 30 years old.
- Kurspahic, Hasan - Approximately 50 years old.
- Kurspahic, Hasiba - Age unknown
- Kurspahic, Hasnija - Approximately 62 years old
- Kurspahic, Hata - Approximately 68 years old.
- Kurspahic, Ifeta - Approximately 17 years old.
- Kurspahic, Igabala - Approximately 58 years old.
- Kurspahic, Ismet - Approximately 3 years old.
- Kurspahic, Ismeta - Approximately 26 years old.
- Kurspahic, Izeta - Approximately 24 years old
- Kurspahic, Kada - Approximately 40 years old
- Kurspahic, Latifa - Approximately 23 years old.
- Kurspahic, Lejla - Approximately 4 years old.
- Kurspahic, Maida - Age is unknown, she was a little girl.
- Kurspahic, Medina - Approximately 28 years old.
- Kurspahic, Medo - Approximately 50 years old.
- Kurspahic, Mejra - Approximately 47 years old.
- Kurspahic, Meva - Approximately 45 years old.
- Kurspahic, Mina - Approximately 20 years old.
- Kurspahic, Mirela - Approximately 3 years old.
- Kurspahic, Mujesira - Approximately 35 years old.
- Kurspahic, Munevera - Approximately 20 years old.
- Kurspahic, Munira - Approximately 12 years old.
- Kurspahic, Munira - Approximately 55 years old
- Kurspahic, Osman - Approximately 67 years old
- Kurspahic, Pasana or Pasija - Approximately 56 years old
- Kurspahic, Ramiza - Approximately 57 years old
- Kurspahic, Sabiha - Approximately 14 years old
- Kurspahic, Sadeta - Approximately 18 years old
- Kurspahic, Safa - Approximately 50 years old
- Kurspahic, Saha - Approximately 70 years old
- Kurspahic, Sajma - Approximately 20 years old
- Kurspahic, Seila - Approximately 2 years old
- Kurspahic, Seniha - Approximately 9 years old
- Kurspahic, Sumbula - Approximately 62 years old
- Kurspahic, Vahid - Approximately 8 years old
- A boy whose name is unknown - Approximately 11 years old
- Aljic, first name unknown, father of Suhra Aljic - Approximately 65 years old
- Alijic, first name unknown, mother of Suhra Aljic - Aproximately 65 years old
- Aljic, first name unknown, son of Suhra Aljic - Approximately 1 year old
- Aljic, Suhra - Approximately 25 years old
- Jelacic, first name unknown - Age unknown
- Tufekcic, Dehva - Approximately 28 years old
- Tufekcic, Elma - Approximately 5 years old
- Tufekcic, Ensar - Approximately 1.5 years old
- Turjacanin, Dulka - Approximately 51 years old
- Turjacanin, Sada - Approximately 29 years old
- Turjacanin, Selmir - Approximately 9 years old
- Vilic, first name unknown, daughter of Mina Vilic - Age unknown
- Vilic, first name unknown, son of Mina Vilic - Age unknown
- Vilic, Mina - Approximately 32 years old
- Vilic, Mirzeta - Approximately 8 years old
- Ajanovic, Mula - Approximately 75 years old.
- Delija, Adis - Approximately 2 years old
- Delija, Ajnija - Approximately 50 years old
- Delija, Jasmina - Approximately 24 years old
- Family name unknown - Hasena Age unknown
- Jasarevic, Tima - Age unknown
- Jasarevic, Hajra - Approximately 35 years old.
- Jasarevic, Meho - Approximately 42 years old.
- Jasarevic, Mujo - Approximately 47 years old.
- Memisevic, Fazila - Approximately 54 years old
- Memisevic, Redzo - Approximately 57 years old
- Sadikovic, Rabija - Approximately 52 years old
- Sehic, Enver - Approximately 13 years old
- Sehic, Faruk - Approximately 12 years old
- Sehic, Haraga - Age unknown
- Sehic, Kada - Approximately 39 years old
- Velic, Nurka - Approximately 70 years old
- Velic, Tima - Approximately 35 years old
- Vila, Jasmina - Approximately 20 years old
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SREBRENICA GENOCIDE IS NOT A MATTER OF ANYBODY'S OPINION; IT'S A JUDICIAL FACT RECOGNIZED FIRST BY THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL TRIBUNAL FOR THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA AND SUBSEQUENTLY BY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE.
posted by Srebrenica Genocide Blog Editor at 7:11 PM
85 Comments:
What can you say when you see this. Some say, don’t dig in the past, let it go. Who is going to speak for these innocent humans beings then?
Hopefully there is a special place in hell for these murderers so they can burn 150 times every day.
As I said in another comment--the evidence keeps piling up, but we have yet to hear one single contrite word from the revisionists and apologists.
لاول ولا قوة الا بالله
اللهم انتقم منهم في الدنيا والآخرة
This is really heavy stuff...
What bothers me most are not even the genocide deniers and apologists but how deeply the rhetoric of the serbs being a proud nation goes. that idea that serbs are brave soldiers who fight for their liberation from oppression, including oppression from 'american imperialism' is what makes so many people in the west look at them with sympathy and dismiss their crimes according to the idea that all side committed atrocities.
Unfortunately, the Dayton Peace Agreement allows the Greater SERBIAN perpetrators of GENOCIDE to deny this, and, furthermore, to continue harrassing Bosniak refugees to the areas occupied by Serb forces.
This is the ONLY genocide in Europe since WWII, and EU and USA keep silent about. They are presently FORCING the victims to GIVE UP on their right to justice and freedom. Genocidal Republika Srpska continues to exist.
The WORLD allows the EVIL to triumph in Bosnia. This has to STOP!
NO justice, NO lasting PEACE!
"WARNING: Srebrenica genocide denial comments are not welcome and will be rejected. Thank you."
What else can one say after the above warning is issued to people who what to leave a comment?
To the above Annonymus who posted comments at December 29, 2008: Wanna still say against the genocide after see these image and say that there was no genocide happened. There r lot of your friends website where u can justify the genocide and your denial comments will be highly welcomed and appreciated. Why bother us here??
Sarah Franco,
What this blog does so venerably is tell readers around the world what the situation in Srebrenica was like throughout the war, the conditions the innocent people there found themselves in. That explains to readers the actual historical context of the eventual genocide that took place in '95, which is something that the deniers can never do right, while the claims of the apologists' fall apart upon closer inspection.
To tell you the truth Sarah, I'm not as patriotic as I used to be, especially when Serbian nationalists spout their same-old propaganda, using victimisation to convince Serbs where I come from (I'm a Croatian Serb, by the way) to support the failed concept of Greater Serbia that is partly responisible for their suffering.
And I'll tell you something Sarah. Seeing these detailed photos depicting the apalling and terrible results of the Greater Serbia project upon human beings gives me even more reason to denounce Serbian nationalism for the injustices it has inflicted upon innocent people, and to also denounce it as an enormous fraud for keeping my fellow Serbs in the dark about the actions of our "heroes" and misleading them with false promises of unity and security.
Please Dan tell me where you found or got these photos. Did you need to be given permission to show them on your blog by a relevant organisation?
Alan.
In answer to Anonymous, you just don't say anything.
The fact of genoicide at Srebrenica has been confirmed by the highest instances of international law and people who value this blog and the contribution its author has made to achieving truth and justice for the victims are not interested in wasting any more time and effort entertaining the fraud of genocide denial.
Is that a simple enough answer for you?
Alan asked, "Please Dan tell me where you found or got these photos. Did you need to be given permission to show them on your blog by a relevant organisation?"
All photos are used with permission. I updated the post with a Copyright Notice today.
All photos © Human Rights NGO Truth for Justice (www.ispa.ba); Photographer: Almir Arnaut; Used with Permission; Photos originally published by www.Genocid.org project. Forensic evidence collected by the U.N. war crimes investigators. The remains of victims analyzed by the Department of Pathology at the University Clinical Center Tuzla.
Alan, thanks for the encouraging comment, especally this:
"""reason to denounce Serbian nationalism for the injustices it has inflicted upon innocent people, and to also denounce it as an enormous fraud for keeping my fellow Serbs in the dark about the actions of our "heroes" and misleading them with false promises of unity and security."""
I think that the rhetoric of victimization that you mention is a key point...
Once again, after your post on Sjeverin, the name of Milan Lukic crops up. Now that finally he's been brought to trial let's hope that not only will he receive justice but we'll also know the identities of those who sponsored and protected him.
Ed Vulliamy's and Nerma Jelacic's Guardian article about Lukic written at the time of his extradition from Argentina in 2005:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/aug/11/warcrimes.features11
Details of the trial of Milan Lukic and his cousin Sredoje at the ICTY at http://www.icty.org/case/milan_lukic_sredoje_lukic/4
visit www.genocideinvisegrad.wordpress.com
Daniel, it's incredible how little publicity is given to the fact that the Srebrenica genocide involved women and small children as well as men and teenage boys. The fact of the Srebrenica genocide is increasingly recognised by almost everyone who isn't a member of the dwindling band of deniers. But, as you told me once before, the genocide was actually WORSE than even most well intentioned people realise.
I do hope that one day you - as one of the world's leading experts on the Srebrenica genocide - will write a proper history of it. This is something we don't yet have, and the message needs to reach members of the scholarly community and educated public who don't necessarily read blogs.
If you don't do it, who will ?
Perhaps other readers share my hope ?
I totally share Marko Attila Hoare's appeal to you, Daniel.
I am sure other people think the same way. I understand that it's no easy task, but you are THE person to take such task.
http://cafeturco.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/duty-of-memory-european-parliament-declares-11-july-day-of-comemoration-of-the-srebrenica-genocide-to-be-celebrated-in-all-eu-countries/
daniel, check this...
Daniel's story has been published on H-Genocide and has been sent out in it's mailing list.
Its horrible what was happen in Srebrenica, because UN suppose to guard them. Unfortunately this was same case in Somalia, Rwanda, Iraq, Kosovo and other regions in the world. I must to say that Im from Serbia, and Im against any crime, no meter who did it to who. Some (ill) people just think that crime is bigger when you say - muslim terrorist, or Serbs, Croats, Hutu, Turks.. But it is not. Its shame that someone speculate about number of victims. 800 or 8000 - its still war crime against humanity. Also is shame to make politics and profit on dead people. This in Srebrenica looks to me like Turkish genocide on Armenians. Too much politics, and no justice for victims. What makes different between crimes of muslims against christians in Africa, or crimes of America against muslims in Iraq? Or crimes of Russians against Chechnya? or Chechen muslims against Russians? What? Name? Natioanlity? Religion? Think before you teach your children to think about one nation or religion that its "evil, crime, dark group of beasts." Piece to all. Belgrade.
I am well aware of the crimes carried out in the name of Serbian nationalism. This stuff sickens me. Einstein once said "nationalism is an infantile disease, it is the measles of mankind." Or something like that. I am from Quebec, and believe me I know what just a small percentage of the population are capable if they are convinced that they have been "done wrong." However; I was in Serbia, near Bor, in 2007 and I was treated very warmly. I know that most Serbs would abhor these crimes.
Anonymous (Sunday January 25th):
AMEN!
I saw some pretty awfull sights when serving in the former yougoslavia 1992 1994 1995 1996 1999 total disregard for life.
And the chetniks were really dispicable humans
Arafat H, as someone whose identity is a link to the home page of the website Jew Watch, reportedly operated by a member of the white supremacist neo-Nazi National Alliance and linking to a site offering downloads of Holocaust denial and trivialisation videos, I think you may have genocide denial issues of your own to address before you comment here.
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I served in Bosnia in 2000/2001 and had the opportunity to drive to Srebrenica after I read the book "Ground Zero". I'll never forget driving by the soccer field, the battery factory and into the edge of Srebrenica. I don't know how people can live there now...When I returned to the U.S. I actually met people that downplayed the massacre...incredible...I couldn't convince them otherwise. Ironically all NATO/US had to do was threaten the JNA with destruction when it had surrounded Vucovar in Croatia in 1992. We could have easily smashed it. A few hundred lives sacrificed instead of a quarter of million lives and millions displaced later. If we only knew.
wow..well i have read all the comments and i really must say that it brings many things to perspective..i am a bosnian who lived in bosnia when the initial civil war broke out,and also one of the fortunate once that had a chance of escape. I was only 6 years old at the time but looking at the pictures and seeing video's of the mass graves makes me sick to my stomach. I don't even know how peopel can have the nerve to deny that this genocide happened. Do these people think that those mass graves where digged up by themselves?? Do these people know that there are still family members missing and that their bodies have still not been discovered after the war?? My grandfather is one of those people, may his soul rest in peace, and the hardest thing is that i can't even go to his grave site and pay my respects since i don't even know where his body was put. It just makes me sad that it had to come to this, that people who once lived in peace destroyed so many peoples lifes. God only knows how many more bodies haven't been discoverd yet. I just hope that all those war criminal get what they deserve.
Anonymous,
NATO did not have to sacrifice any lives to end the blockade of Sarajevo, Bihac, Srebrenica, Zepa... NATO had the power to destroy Serb tanks and artillery with effective air strikes. However, NATO was not willing to help, the United Nations proved to be ineffective, and UNPROFOR peacekeepers became impotent bystanders, see here; in some cases, they even assisted Serbs in ethnic cleansing. Dutchbat handed down Srebrenica to Serbs while "toasting to the dead"; they also assisted Serbs in forcible deportation of 25,000 people from Srebrenica.
In 1991, the U.N. and NATO imposed an arms embargo on all of former Yugoslavia. The embargo hurt the Army of Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina the most because Serbia inherited the lion's share of the former JNA arsenal and the Croatian army could smuggle weapons through its coast.
As you know, the story goes that Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) officially "left" Bosnia and Herzegovina on May 12, 1992... In reality, they just changed the uniforms and transfered themselves in the Bosnian Serb Army of Republika Srpska (VRS).
The Bosniaks mostly organized into the Army of Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina. This army had a number of non-Bosniaks (around 25%), especially in the 1st Corps in Sarajevo. The deputy commander of the Bosnian Army's Headquarters, was general Jovan Divjak, the highest ranking ethnic Serb in the Bosnian Army. We had around 200,000 infrantry men and women, but we did not have enough weapons to defend ourselves.
To get back to the arms embargo, here is an interesting observation by James Phillips, Senior Research Fellow for Middle Eastern Affairs, published just days following the 1995 Srebrenica genocide:
"The sad truth is that President Clinton's policy zigzags have made a tragic situation in Bosnia worse. By repeatedly promising resolute action, such as U.S. air strikes or the commitment of U.S. ground troops, and then retreating, Clinton has eroded U.S. credibility and undermined NATO cohesion without appreciably slowing the steady slide of U.N. peacekeeping forces into near-irrelevance. The increasingly truculent Bosnian Serbs have steadily undermined the U.N.'s three goals in Bosnia: to provide humanitarian aid to Bosnian civilians, to moderate the ferocity of the fighting, and to encourage a diplomatic settlement. Peace efforts have failed primarily because the Bosnian Serbs have concluded, based on their military superiority to date, that they have more to gain by fighting than by negotiating.
The Serbs have been aided by the arms embargo on Yugoslavia imposed by the U.N. in 1991. The arms embargo allowed the 80,000 man-Bosnian Serb militia, armed and supported by neighboring Serbia, to retain control of the territory that it has conquered, roughly 70 percent of Bosnia, in large part due to a near monopoly of heavy weapons. The Bosnian government can mobilize up to 200,000 men but has been unable to arm them because of the embargo. Less than one in three of its potential fighters has weapons, and it is outgunned by the smaller Serb force...." Read Full Article
death to serbia! they are evil!
"Death to serbia they are evil"?
No.
"The line between good and evil does not divide us from them, but rather is drawn down the middle of each human heart." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, 'Archepelag Gulag'
God knows; God remembers; God will eventually assign responsibility.
His justice will prevail.
-RLKESQ
Well, if other than your own opinion about Srebrenica will be rejected, then what is the point of this blog?
Some political correctness?
If there is a war, there is a crime. I think all this about Srebrenica should be put in its historical and factual context.
Civil wars in the Balkans have always been harsh. Serbs were mass-murdered by the Ustashe during WWII. Now, it was the turn for Moslems.
The only question is what nation is going to be next?
For me there is no doubt that crimes are going to happen again.
Anonymous, you say "If there is a war, there is a crime." If you're saying that as a matter of observation, fair enough. But it's an empty observation.
The reason why crimes are committed, not just violence, is because there are rules of warfare that stand back from the basic rights and wrongs of resolving conflict through violence.
They protect parties who are considered not to be active participants in the conflict between armed forces, such as civilians and prisoners of war.
Perhaps you should take the time to read the Geneva Conventions. They are history and they are fact. War crimes are crimes and they are to be condemned and punished accordingly.
Response to Anonymous:
You said: "If there is a war, there is a crime."
So, according to you, if there is a war, it's ok for war crimes to occur. Well, let me remind you: we're not talking about the individual war crimes that regularly occur in all conflicts - we're talking about the crime of genocide. Do you comprehend the severity of this crime?
You said: "I think all this about Srebrenica should be put in its historical and factual context."
Yes, I placed it in both historical and factual context in my lengthy response to your comment at this page (see 'Comments' section). Make sure to read it and learn from it.
You said: "Well, if other than your own opinion about Srebrenica will be rejected, then what is the point of this blog?"
Srebrenica genocide is not a matter of anybody's opinion, it's a fact.
You said: "Serbs were mass-murdered by the Ustashe during WWII. Now, it was the turn for Moslems."
In fact, both Serbs and Muslims (Bosniaks) were mass murdered in WWII. Croatian Ustasha and Serbian Chetniks murdered more than 100,000 Bosniaks in the WWII. I pay my tribute to all victims of the Second World War.
"Civil wars in the Balkans have always been harsh. Serbs were mass-murdered by the Ustashe during WWII. Now, it was the turn for Moslems"
It was turn for Muslims (note the correct spelling)? Tell that to the mother of my 9 year old neighbor killed by sniper in front of our building. Tell that to my friend that STILL does not know where here parents were buried.
Oh my god iam thinking what was the serbian trops thinking about while they are killing wemen,elderly and childreen? and i was thinking how those poor childreen felt during the killing or during the abuse? i think its agreat masacre and no one can feel this like libyans am libyan and the italins killed 25,000 women children and elderly in alagila preson in benghazi during 1920.
and they killed 3000 in one day in alhani and more than 5000 in alkofra and killed 3/4 of the libyan population and left just 750,000 pepole after there gone.
I usually have a good stomach for these types of graphic images, but this just turned it all upside down. It is just heart-breaking!
I will be doing another presentation on the Bosnian Genocide this upcoming Saturday at a National Conference here in the US, and although I have done a number of these before, I never know how the audience is going to take it. Reading previous comments on this post, I can sense a general consensus that one cannot possibly deny all the facts at hand - except for a few lost souls who still harbor a pinch of their nationalistic pride with firm denial that the genocide ever happened. That gives me a little hope.
But in any event, your work is very commendable, and I truly appreciate all you have done with your activism in upholding this very important blog. So, thank you.
However, we must keep in mind that the Srebrenica massacre was executed within the context of a larger scale genocide across Bosnia and Herzegovina. We must remember that all of Bosnia was bleeding, not just an arm or a leg - the whole body was brutally massacred!
I do not know how someone can kill an inoccent person let alone a baby and live with it. Looking at these pictures made me have tears in my eyes. May these inoccent victims rest in peace.
Srebrenica genocide=largest mass murdur since WW2
watch this and the other parts of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4wtBJHMdU
These people who come here to try to get an answer should just leave.Who are these people?I am from srebrenica and my father along with other family members(male) were excecuted. now you may want to look up the list of all the people that are killed, then, lets say go-take action-find them!!! It is just sad how all these people were killed-just because we are muslims.When I went back to srebrenica after 15 years,it looks the same, just dead. Justice will e served, insallah.
It just makes me sick to see this pictures. I really hope that there is God who can judge them for all the crimes they have done!
What is most unfortunate is that this has been known for years by most western governments. This and much more. There were many massacres and Srebrenica's in Bosnia from 1992-1995 committed by Serb forces. There are literally thousands of mass graves filled with the innocent civilians of Bosnian Muslims throughout Bosnia and most will never be found. But why should it matter? It's just a few hundred thousand rag head Muslims that were killed, not as if they were actually real people or humans. Just a bunch of dirty Muslims! In the case of us Bosnian Muslims, NEVER AGAIN meant, well we'll let it go this time. NEVER AGAIN DID NOT APPLY TO US! May the victims of genocidal appeasement rest in peace!
"now you may want to look up the list of all the people that are killed"
A reminder for anyone still wanting to challenge the extent of the genocidal massacre - there are 8373 names set in stone at the Potocari Memorial Centre and reproduced for anyone anywhere in the world to inspect at the Memorial Centre website.
I am not aware of any of the authorities on denial like Karganovic, Malic, Trifunovic, General Lewis MacKenzie etc. having demonstrated the survival of any one of those named victims, let alone shown that a significant number of the individuals were not killed.
During all the years that they have refused to accept the substance of the Srebrenica genocide they have insisted on proof. As proof has accumulated, with the remains of more and more of the victims being exhumed from the secondary mass graves where they were concealed and the International Commission on Missing Persons identifying more and more of those remains, the denialists have failed to come up with any evidence of their own to support their claims.
Anonymous of May 18, you are far from being the first person to visit this blog who has spontaneously referred to the death of a family member at Srebrenica. The names of the victims are there for all to inspect. The denialists should have the courage to read through at least part of the list and start confronting the hollowness of their version of reality. As Kirk pointed out, "... the evidence keeps piling up, but we have yet to hear one single contrite word from the revisionists and apologists."
http://www.potocarimc.ba/memorijalni_eng/favorite.htm
I am sorry when i read Report of the Secretary-General pursuant to General
Assembly resolution 53/35 that how Srebrenica people were disarmed and reminded this place as safe area and then killed continuously for the periods of days.Imagine for a while that what will be the feelings of a person who is going to be executed for nothing then just because he was a muslim.We must condem Serbs butcher.
A person can view this article in two ways either as an attempt to show Serb civilians in general as perpetrators of great evil (which this article certainly portrays) and so not deserving of any pity or consideration for their own suffering,
or it is a genuine attempt to exorcise the lingering contempt’s and hatreds that remain to this day (and were a factor in the Bosnian war to begin with), through the stark and unbiased presentation of facts, witness statements etc..
So the question I must ask is what is this article for, propaganda or truth and hopefully reconciliation?
Araz, the purpose of these horrific pictures is to educate and warn people about the dangers of genocide and other serious human rights violations.
I see that there's been a recent relevant comment about Ivanisevic elsewhere at this blog:
http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2007/10/milivoje-ivanisevic-disturbed-mind-of.html?showComment=1244989992346#c4599062214023401414
Araz, the importance of this article is that it balances the propaganda being circulated by Milivoje Ivanisevich and other individuals working on behalf of Radovan Karadzic's defence to portray the Srebrenica genocide as being mitigated or justified by the slaughter of Serb civilians in the surrounding area by the inhabitants of Srebrenica.
Numbers continue to be circulated that were discredited long ago by the research of the IDC in Sarajevo. Arguments are put forward that were discredited in the Secretary-General's report.
That is why a horrific article like this has to be published. There can be no genuine reconciliation without acknowledgment of the truth and justice for the victims.
I heard rummors that Greek and Russian mercenaries were also amongst the perpetrators. Is there any truth to this?
Yes. Greek and Russian mercenaries were also amongst the perpetrators. I recommend you to read the following:
“Fear Not, For You Have Brothers in Greece”: A Research Note in the Journal of Genocide Studies and Prevention. (University of Toronto Press).
Picture of the Greek volunteers raising the flag posted by vjack at http://p100.ezboard.com/Greek-CrimesInternational-Links-Only/fbalkansfrm175.showMessage?topicID=169.topic
June 17 Anonymous, at the Michael Karajis's Mihalis blog he republishes a public letter signed by 163 academics, journalists and other citizens calling on the Greek State to apologise publicly to the families of the 8,000 slaughtered at Srebrenica and also to apologise for the way in which Greek "public opinion was misinformed and uncritically placed in a common psychological front with the criminal regime of Milosevic, under the pretext of Orthodoxy, the traditional Greek-Serbian friendship and alleged "anti-imperialism."" and "Not only this. Greek 'volunteers' (their public confessions have been published) have fought in Bosnia with Karadzic and Mladic and raised the Greek flag, dishonouring it in Srebrenica at the moment of the carnage."
The letter also called for the indictment of the Greek 'volunteers' who were accomplices in the crime as well as the supposedly 'unknown' people who manipulated them.
There was a judicial nquiry in Greece, though I don't know what the outcome was. The Justice Minister Anastasios Papaligouras, told parliament that Greeks may have participated in the slaughter but they were not members of the armed forces.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/greek-role-...-investigated-496960.html
A Greek journalist Takis Michas has published a book Unholy Alliance: Greece and Milosevic's Serbia in the Nineties (Texas A&M University Press)
"This is an account of the war in the Balkans during the 1990s. As the only member of NATO and the European Union to support Slobodan Milosevic's regime in the conflict following the breakup of Yugoslavia, Greece broke ranks with its western allies, frustrating their efforts to impose sanctions against Serbia. The work looks at Greek-Serbian relations and tackles the difficult question of how the Greek people could ignore Serbian aggression and war crimes. Journalistic accounts are combined with anecdotes and personal interviews to show a pattern of Greek support for Milosevic and Radovan Karadzic that implicates Greek politicians from all parties, as well as the Greek Orthodox Church, the Greek media, and ultimately the Greek people themselves. The evidence and conclusions presented aim to question the opinion that a new liberal order replaced the ideological standoff of the Cold War, but it will not surprise those who suspected that older allegiances have now claimed loyaties of many of the world's peoples.
"what seemed incomprehensible during the Bosnia and Kosovo wars was not so much that Greece sided with Serbia, but that it sided with Serbia's darkest side" (p. 4).
These waves have not reached Greece, though, a country that was rejoicing after the "fall" of Srebrenica in July 1995 at the hands of Bosnian Serbs and their allies, Greek paramilitaries. The latter in fact raised the Greek flag in Srebrenica after its capture: for those who may try to contest this fact, a photo is provided (p. 22),
Another revealing part of the Dutch report on Srebrenica is the reference to the support of the Bosnian Serb army by the Greek (alongside Israeli and Ukrainian) secret services which provided them with arms and ammunition. Michas' book makes this look even more credible when it reveals that NATO military secrets on the August 1995 air strikes were passed on to Mladic on direct orders of then socialist Prime Minister Andreas Papandreou: the author's source is none other than Papandreou's personal intermediary with Karadzic and Milosevic, the -then and now-President of Greek-Serbian Friendship Association, who was carrying out the mission (pp. 38-39)"
www.preventgenocide.org/edu/pastgenocides/formeryugoslavia/resources/
Posted by JannissaryofByzantium at http://p100.ezboard.com/fbalkansfrm175.showMessageRange?topicID=169.topic&start=41&stop=60
lanetosum,lanetosum!
For the last 30 minutes, I am thinking what to write. I type something, then erase it. There is no comment that is suitable to this. RS politicians not only deny genocide, but the obstruct every single thing that could move Bosnia forward, yet encouraged by their "leader" Dodik. RS is just a malignant creation, a product of Dayton peace accord, and it should be treated as such. RS parasites on Bosnia and will do as long as it exists. Some people are still alive beause it is illegal to kill them!
...como siempre, el ser humano es capaz de lo mejor ... y lo peor. Descansen en paz, y que sus asesinos no puedan hacerlo nunca.
serbs = nazis
serben sind nazisten übleste sorte,die sind teufels hunde
I am an American living in St. Louis, Mo. I have embraced and become friends with many Bosnians living here. I have spent many hours reading many posts. Man is the only animal capable of doing these horrible things. May God grant peace to those deceased and to their families. Please, NEVER AGAIN.
I was in Srebrenica on the 11th of july this year and only words that I say are come there and then write comment. Thanks!
shame eu for Balcan Bosnia shame europe the just watch srebrenica 95 never forget shame world un and all the world ....
20 July 2009 Milan Lukić was found guilty by the ICTY Trial Chamber in The Hague of all charges in the indictment before the court, including the murders committed in the Pionirska street fire and the Bikavac fire.
The Court observed that "The Pionirska street fire and the Bikavac fire exemplify the worst acts of inhumanity that a person may inflict upon others. In the all too long, sad and wretched history of man’s inhumanity to man, the Pionirska street and Bikavac fires must rank high."
Sredoje Lukić was found guilty of aiding and abetting the Pionirska street murders.
Milan Lukić was sentenced to life imprisonment. Sredoje Lukić was senteced to 30 years imprisonment.
http://www.icty.org/case/milan_lukic_sredoje_lukic/tjug/en/090720_judg_summary_en.pdf
this is a horrible crime. i wonder why people do this to others. it breaks my heart knowing that many innocent children died because of the cruelty of the responsible men. if i were the judge during the trial i will convict the accused of torture and death. i will let people skin them alive, pull their teeth and nails, beat them. i wil let the people unleash their fury over the accused. an eye for an eye, teeth for a teeth. i know it sound evil, but what they did to those people are unbelievable.
other people say that we forget the past, but why should we forget something like this? some people tell us to forget because they were not the one's who were killed or it was not their family members. but for me, even if i dont know the victims, i will never forget that there are people who kill especially babies. i will never forget the killers of this massacre and i hope their soul to rot in hell.
Everyone is talking about the serbs that were doing all of these things to Bosniaks, but no one is showing any photos or videos of what the Bosniaks did to the Serbs.There is a movie called "NOZ" that shows somethings that the Bosniaks did to the serbs, but no one is showing that movie. There just showing a bad picture about the Serbians and Bosniaks are great people they never did anything to anyone they are so good they would not hurt a fly ----Yea right. So please don't blame everything on the Serbians do some research whatch some true life story movies....
Anonymous, don't play that "equalization" game with me.
Bosnian Serbs are responsible for a vast majority of war crimes.
Bosnian Serbs - with the moral, logistical, financial, and military help from Serbia - planned, organized, and carried out a widespread ethnic cleansing campaign against the Bosniak population, including systematic human rights violations that culminated in the crime of Genocide in Srebrenica.
Having said that, there can never be any comparison between the individual war crimes committed against the Serbs and those crimes that were systematically planned, organized, and carried out against the Bosniak population of Bosnia-Herzegovina.
Documentaries like "Noz" and "Na Drini Grobnica" are Serbian propaganda videos that used footages of murdered Bosniak civilians in Visegrad, Foca, and other towns, and then presented them as Serb casualties. Bosniak civilians in Podrinje were murdered "en masse" by Serbs and then thrown into the Drina River. Their bodies floated and ended up on various River banks.
Bosniak population of Podrinje was totally unprepared for war and without any arms - except hunting riffles and pistols used for defense from genocidal Serb Army.
this is shocking...
I was in Croatia this summer, and for a night I stayed in Kutina, near Zagreb. At a bar in Kutina, I was asked an odd question - "Do you speak Bosnian"? I am from Romania, so I knew about the wars, but not too much.
Thus I wanted to read about these conflicts, and I must say what happened to Bosnia is awful.
of course all posts that speaks of "other sideof the medal" are not posted. Few days ago I have wrote about films, crimes, etc and post are not published. Wondering why...
Anonymous of 8 August, the author of this Blog has posted quite a lot of posts about "the other side", as you call it - I presume you mean the Serbs.
Some of these posts come from genuine people who point to the actions that members of "the other side" took, like soldiers who refused to participate in genocide, neighbours who hid friends during atrocities, human rights activists who have spoken out in the face of intimidation - as a reminder that in combatting all the lies and self-deception it's important we should not forget how honourable people behave.
Some are about the genuine suffering of Serbs that tends to get overlooked as a result of the in the vast disproportionality of the atrocities that were perpetrated at Srebrenica and the incessant breast-beating misrepresentation and exploitation of Serb suffering by interested parties.
Some are from people who appear to have innocently taken on board the version of the truth propagated over the past fifteen years by those concerned above all to avoid legal and financial responsibility for what was done at Srebrenica.
And occasionally the author even lets through comments that I consider should have been covered by the warning notice above the Comment box:
"WARNING: Srebrenica genocide denial comments are not welcome and will be rejected. Thank you."
I have seen enough of Milivoje Ivanisevic's discredited untruths about the "suffering of the Serbs" at Srebrenica. It's a waste of my time reading it again because it's simply not a true account of reality. More to the point it is deeply offensive to people who post at this blog about their own experiences that are constantly denied, denigrated and minimised by "Othe Side" propagandists.
It's clear that the propaganda onslaught that abated after Serbia achieved its escape from reparations with the ICJ judgment is now starting up again as the Karadzic defence enterprise gears up its drive to subvert confidence in the truth of the evidence that will be exhibited at The Hague.
I can't tell whether your comment is part of that enterprise. If it's a straightforward account of the reality of what some individual Serbs suffered while their compatriots were engaged in the business of systematic slaughter, then you have a right to ask for their story to be heard.
However when your post of complaint is published on the blog after being sent without the effort to identify yourself even by a pseudonym, I'll choose to assume that that the author has quite simply applied his well-advertised ground rules.
The readers here are quite happy with those ground rules. Genocide denial has been seen for what it is.
Owen, the reason I rejected two comments by "Anonymous" above is because he was trying to promote genocide denial links in his comments, including chetnik videos from extremist (fascist) organization called Ravnogorski Cetnicki Pokret Brcko. I already exchanged E-mails with him. He doesn't seem to be very intelligent.
May Allah bless all the martired's who were killed in this shamful act. Insha Allah justice will beserved and the people involved in this act will have to pay for there deeds
please recite DAROUD and pray for these SHAHEEID Muslims. Are Muslims fundamentalists or terrorists ? damn on those who think so.
I was a Field Medic, serving in Canadian Battalion from May to November 93. I went to Srebrenica for 2 months, then made over 60 days of convoys across central Bosnia. In my serving time in Srebrenica, fellow medics and I were hanging around Srebrenica others villages for daily clinics to help people and kids to solve their diseases and medical problems. All in my serving time in Bosnia I was trying the best to help anyone who was in needs of medical attention.
Being a Soldier, I was in the mercy of the orders from my chain of command that was sent by U.N and others instances.
As a human being, this war was simply Hell, and when the fall of Srebrenica happened in 1995, I just couldn’t believe what I saw.
Yes the world has failed to help People of Bosnia, and I could not understand the "Don’t do and Tell" politic and the lack, well must say NONE of any protection from the Dutch Battalion to Srebrenica people.
I came back to home in November Broken from my experience of Bosnia. Being the instrument of political instance that were telling me that convoys of "Flour" and "Water" were more precious than any human getting killed in front of us, my mind just could not understand this while I was trying to help anyone in medical needs.
Living with this War images and cry since 93, I may think this is my redemption, but I feel that I will never get rest again.
In May 2010, i will get back to Bosnia, 17 years after my mission over there. I will be visiting each area that I went Sarajevo, Buci Visoko, Vitez, Zvornik, Fojnica, Kakanj, Kisseljak, Zenica, Donji Vakuf, Travnik, Tuzla, and Many more.
Potocari Memorial will be my final destination. There, I will take the time to remember what happened in 1995 (Even if I was not there) and think about how the hell the world didn’t do anything even long before Srebrenica fall.
May all of you Muslims in Srebrenica rest in peace, and Yes I am one of those who think that God will sort the good and the bad for when it will be their times of judgment.
For all people of Bosnia, I do wish every day back in my Home Town that better days came to you and will still be.
And for all of those who didn't make it, especially in Srebrenica, I’ll see you in my nightmares....
Wish the best for you all Bosnia People.
Field Medic, 1972
Field Medic 1972, all that anyone can hope to be able to do is to follow their conscience as far as other people will let them. You did that, and you continue to do so by speaking out and bearing witness to the truth of what you experienced. Thank you.
Owen
the serb will pay for this if not in this life in the other ; the serb crimnals enjoy their live now as the EU and other countires did not do any things about their crimes but GOD wachting them and one day he will send his soliders from punshing the serb crimnals
OMG so horrible they serbs were really not different with nazi, they (those fuck**ng war crimes) would have to pay for this someday just like hitler, goehring and himmler before
justice for all may god bless you bosnia
I was born in 93' in Bosnia. I never knew about this genocide until 2 years ago. I am lucky that my family has not been in this big genocide. After looking at those pictures, I sit on this chair in tears.. The images triggered my emotions and I cannot stand to see something like that.. Killing anybody is wrong, especially young kids and babies.... How can someone murder a baby?? I'm just speechless... My family and I are very lucky we were not living close to where this happened.. May allah show no mercy on those who committed these terrible crimes. My blessings go out to all the families who have lost their siblings.
Hi Anonymous. Not all Serbs are the same. Some of them are helping our cause. I am in touch with a number of Serbs who help our cause and stand for human rights.
When i see those horrible things worldwide i guess God made a mistake when he created human race :-(
Spot on Marko! Well said!
To Anonymous from October 25, 2009
It's precisely such NASTY COMMENTS about other nations like what you wrote above, Anonymous, that is RESPONSIBLE for so many CRUEL, NASTY AND DISGUSTING THINGS happening, like what happened in the Balkans during the 1990s, to innocent people WORLDWIDE!
When you claim how people from one nation are ALL evil, horrible and that they should all go to hell, guess what kind of things could happen? PRECISELY the kind of EVIL, HORRIBLE AND HELLISH THINGS that happened in the Bosnian, Croatian and Kosovo wars!
If only people would realise that, and perhaps these things won't happen any more!
Alan-why do you pretend to be a Croatian Serb? NO Serbian family will EVER name their child ALAN!!! You are clearly mixed, so you should identify yourself as such. It is OK to denounce your Serbian side, because I have always denounced my Croatian side. You should just admit it since it makes no sense to lie about something like that. I denounce my Croatian side because of Jasenovac and other Ustashi concentration camps during WWII and civil war.
Anonymous, Alan is a decent, honest person who has the objectivity to see things for what they are, not what his ethnic affiliation tells him it should be. Whatever the reasons for your anger they don't excuse you talking nonsense about what you don't know but could find out easily enough if you chose to.
Anonymous, could you please post that same comment onto my blog so I can answer you there, rather than here?? Here's the link: http://balkan-anarchist.blogspot.com/ Anyone can leave a comment, including anonymous folk like yourself. And I will gladly answer any of your questions about myself and my views on my blog. Thank you.
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@ Alan: I explained in my previous comment that I get many messages signed with "Anonymous" but cannot see IP#s of the posters. That day, I received five "Anonymous" posts, four of them denied the genocide, and one of them attacked you. I rejected four other messages and approved this one, because there was no denial of genocide in it.
Alan, who cares what other people say about you (or me)? You're a decent human being. Both of us are victims of the ethnic cleansing. Although many Serbs are good people, currently those favoring the views of the Serbian Radical Party are more prominently covered in the media. That, however, does not mean that all Serb people are bad. If you look at this video, there is also one scene showing Bosniak and Serb man co-operating with each other... the bottom line: ordinary Bosniaks and Serbs in Bosnia-Herzegovina are on friendly terms as they should be. Even in Srebrenica, you will find ordinary Bosniaks and Serbs working with each other for common good, e.g. see this post and then scroll down to their YouTube channel.
@ Deleted: above message, also signed by "Anonymous," is now deleted. I noticed that the "F" word has been used in the message when generalizing about all Serbs, and I don't that's appropriate.
Thank you Dan, and you are a very nice person too!
You obviously have a tough job dealing with readers' comments to your blog, considering the subject that your blog focuses on and the numbers of visitors your blog receives. But I do like what you say about all those genocide denial comments: "every day I get them - and every day I reject them"! Samo tako nastavljaj!
But seriously, I'm surprised that that anonymous fella, who directed his comment to me, posted it here on your blog under this very profound article but not on mine, which would've been far more appropriate. And had he done so, I would've been more than delighted to answer his questions and comments about me on my blog, where it would be most appropriate to hold such a debate about myself.
Alan, I am surpised too. I have no way of checking IP#s.
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